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Rental Market Collapse: Inside the Landlord Crisis

Jon Brooks
Jon Brooks
Jun 26, 2025
8 min read
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For the past decade, particularly since the COVID-era migration to Florida, landlords operated with near-total leverage. Vacancies hovered at 2–3 percent. Rents climbed nearly 30 percent in three years. A property management company could promise owners aggressive returns, evict sitting tenants without consequence, and fill units within days at higher rates. The system felt immutable. By mid-2025, everything inverted. Rental rates have fallen 3–4 percent nationally over the past 20 months—6 percent in the hardest-hit markets like Austin, Tampa, and Nashville. Vacancy rates have quintupled to 8–10 percent. Landlords who gambled on selling after evicting reliable tenants now sit on empty homes for six to eight months, bleeding money monthly. And for the first time in years, tenants—not landlords—hold the negotiating cards.

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What Happened During the Pandemic Rental Boom?

Between 2020 and 2022, the rental market in Florida and across the Southeast experienced a historic surge. Remote work displaced millions from higher-cost cities; pandemic anxiety pushed people toward lower-density living; stimulus payments artificially inflated purchasing power. Rents rose 30 percent. Property management companies, flush with commissions, made aggressive promises to owners: maintain high prices, maintain strict tenant standards, and find premium renters quickly. Vacancy rates were so tight (2–3 percent) that scarcity pricing worked mechanically. An owner could evict a paying tenant at $2,200 per month, leave the unit dark for a few weeks, and quickly lease it at $2,500. The math seemed foolproof—it depended entirely on one condition: indefinite demand.

During those years, institutional investors—American Homes for Rent, Progress Homes, Invitation Homes—gorged on single-family properties, acquiring 40–50 homes at a time across Florida and other Sun Belt states. Between 2012 and 2022, firms like these accumulated an estimated 3–4 percent of the national single-family rental market, setting price floors and reinforcing the narrative that residential real estate was a guaranteed wealth engine. The market mythology was complete: buy a property, charge aggressively, hold forever, let inflation do the rest.

When Did the Model Break?

The collapse accelerated in 2023–2024, driven by a perfect storm. Interest rates rose sharply. Remote workers who had purchased Florida dream homes on the assumption of permanent flexibility were called back to offices in Connecticut, New York, Texas, California. The mass COVID exodus—which had fueled the entire boom—reversed. Suddenly, owners faced a brutal arithmetic. They had overextended: bought at peak prices, assumed boom rents, financed at low rates now reset upward.

They couldn't sell. A home purchased at peak price in 2021–2022, financed on remote-work freedom, was suddenly break-even or underwater. Selling meant loss. Holding meant monthly losses too. As Blakeley, a property manager with 20 years in the Northeast Florida market, framed it: an owner might face a $3,000 monthly mortgage payment or choose to rent the property out and accept an $800 monthly loss. Either way, the sting was real. These reluctant landlords—owners who never intended to manage property but were trapped by market reversal—became known in the industry as "accidental landlords." And they made desperate decisions.

Why Did Owners Start Kicking Out Good Tenants?

In desperation to exit the market, owners evicted stable renters, betting they could quickly sell and escape their financial trap. "We have long-term owners who are like, I just got to get out of this real estate while I can. They're kicking good tenants out," Blakeley observed. But the strategy backfired catastrophically. During the sales process, properties sat vacant for 6–8 months. Owners paid preparation costs, painting costs, holding costs, property tax, insurance. When no offer came—because the buyer market had also collapsed—they crawled back to property managers asking to re-rent.

By then, the market had moved against them decisively. Tenants who had paid $2,400 per month? The current comps were $2,100. Blakeley reported renewing his own three properties after three years at $2,200/month, only to reset them at $1,950. A $250 monthly per-unit loss, guaranteed. Multiply that across dozens or hundreds of owners making identical calculations, and the market began a deflationary spiral—not because of economic collapse, but because of forced selling by trapped investors.

What's the Hidden Inventory Problem?

When analysts cite rental market data, they typically reference MLS (Multiple Listing Service) figures, which track formally listed rentals. Northeast Florida MLS data showed approximately 1,817 active rental listings in mid-2025. This sounds manageable. But Blakeley notes a critical blind spot: roughly 70–75 percent of rental properties are self-managed by individual owners; only 25–30 percent are professionally managed. The vast majority of self-managed properties never appear in MLS. "All those vacancies and all those available properties are not reflected," Blakeley explained. "The inventory could easily be double or even triple that." This doesn't include multifamily apartment complexes, which compete directly for the same tenant pools.

The hidden inventory matters psychologically and financially. An owner seeing 1,817 listings might cling to the illusion of a tight market. But property managers know the actual supply is far larger, demand is falling, and tenant power has shifted irreversibly. The real vacancy rate—when you account for self-managed properties and the informal rental market—is closer to 10 percent or higher, a tenfold increase from pandemic-era lows.

Why Did Institutional Investors Exit?

The institutional landlords who had accumulated massive portfolios between 2012 and 2022 largely stopped buying in 2023. When their models broke—when interest rates eliminated the arbitrage opportunity and rent growth reversed—they declared the strategy unprofitable. These firms relied on economies of scale, algorithm-driven pricing, and the assumption of perpetual appreciation. They could sustain temporary losses if the long-term math worked. But when that math inverted, they exited. Their departure removed major sources of liquidity and price-setting power, leaving the market to individual owners and smaller portfolios, many of which lacked the capital reserves to absorb losses.

Which Markets Are Collapsing Fastest?

The rental collapse is not uniform. Austin, Tampa, and Nashville—three Sun Belt hotspots that had absorbed massive pandemic-era migration and new multifamily construction—have been hit hardest. Austin alone saw rents decline 6 percent or more as overbuilt multifamily complexes with premium amenities competed on prices that had become unaffordable even for relocated tech workers. The boom had created a glut that took years to absorb.

A counterintuitive pattern emerged: rents in the Northeast—Baltimore, Buffalo, Providence—actually began rising again in 2024–2025. This reflects the reversal of the pandemic exodus. Remote workers who had fled high-cost cities were being called back to offices; others simply found Sun Belt life less appealing than the initial rush suggested. The Northeast rental market tightened as people returned, while the oversupplied Sun Belt faced years of correction.

How Did Tenants Suddenly Gain Negotiating Power?

For three years, renters had none. Landlords raised rates aggressively, knowing tenants had few alternatives. Now the dynamic inverted completely. A renter can credibly threaten to walk; dozens of move-in specials, free months, and flexible lease terms are available. Landlords, desperate to avoid another six-month vacancy, are scrambling to fill units by any means available.

Property managers who had operated honestly—who told owners, "Your comps are $2,300, not the $2,800 you want"—are finally vindicated. Many competitors had undercut them by promising owners the moon to sign contracts, then failing to deliver. Now, as market reality forced that gap into plain view, the honest players gained credibility. Blakeley's philosophy: "We're not going to blow smoke or lie to you to get your business. We're going to be dead honest. This is what it's going to take." That directness, once seen as a disadvantage, became a competitive asset as desperation replaced delusion.

How Long Will the Rental Decline Last?

Rents have fallen 3–4 percent nationally and up to 6 percent in the hardest-hit markets over the past 20 months. If this pattern continues, further 10–15 percent corrections could occur before market bottom. More importantly, the structural issues won't reverse quickly: interest rates remain elevated; pandemic-era stimulus is exhausted; overbuilding in certain metros persists; and demographic trends (negative birth rates in Florida, aging populations in the Northeast) will reshape demand patterns for years.

For owners in distressed positions, the path forward is brutal. Investors face three choices: hold rental properties as long-term income plays while accepting below-cost-of-carry losses for years; sell at a loss; or default. The leverage that defined the 2020–2023 market has evaporated, replaced by a landlord's reckoning.

Where to Go from Here

The rental market crash is not merely a pricing correction—it's a power realignment. Tenants should act now to lock in favorable terms, knowing competition for their loyalty will only sharpen. Owners should engage honest brokers and managers, not salespeople, and recalibrate expectations to market reality. Prospective investors should wait for capitulation; the real bargains in property come when desperation, not greed, sets prices.

For those monitoring this market, the lesson is clear: what goes up 30 percent in three years can fall 20–30 percent over the next three. The landlord's market of 2020–2023 was an anomaly, built on pandemic-specific conditions. The return to tenant-favorable terms isn't a temporary blip—it's a normalization after years of historic distortion.

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[0:01] The rental market is deteriorating very

[0:03] quickly. And in this video, you'll learn

[0:05] every single detail you need to know if

[0:07] you have a rental property, if you're a

[0:08] renter and you're looking to negotiate,

[0:10] or you're even looking to consider

[0:12] buying an investment property in today's

[0:14] market. Here I've got a special guest

[0:15] with us, Blakeley. Blakeley, let's jump

[0:17] into the data real quickly. What is so

[0:20] different today from what happened, you

[0:23] know, the last goound? Well, we are back

[0:25] into the accidental landlord world. What

[0:29] does that mean? Interest rates have gone

[0:31] up. The the mass COVID migration, I

[0:34] feel, is over. And we've had several

[0:37] owners who have been called back to work

[0:38] in places like Connecticut, New York,

[0:40] Texas, California, etc. who, you know,

[0:43] bought their dream home with the idea of

[0:45] working remote and have been called back

[0:47] into uh the office

[0:50] and they're they're forced to rent. the

[0:52] homeowners who can't sell, maybe they

[0:54] bought at the, you know, height of their

[0:56] beginning of and they, you know,

[0:58] overpaid for those homes at the time

[1:00] because of the mass exodus to Florida.

[1:03] They're now in a position where they're

[1:04] having problems moving them and they're

[1:06] sitting on empty homes for 6 months, 7

[1:08] months, 8 months, can't sell them. Well,

[1:12] do I lose $3,000 a month for mortgage

[1:14] payment or do I lose, you know, $800 a

[1:18] month and rent it out and take an $800 a

[1:20] month loss? So that that's what I'm

[1:21] seeing right now. So you're seeing a lot

[1:23] of owners unable to sell their house

[1:25] because the markets change drastically

[1:27] and then they turn them into rentals.

[1:28] Yes, we have well and it's kind of crazy

[1:30] because we even have long-term owners

[1:31] who are like, I just got to get out of

[1:33] this, you know, this real estate while I

[1:34] can. They're kicking good tenants out.

[1:37] They're sitting on an empty property for

[1:38] 6 months because let's let's be honest,

[1:40] you know, realtors are they're

[1:41] salespeople or you realtor and they're

[1:43] promising these owners, you know, uh the

[1:45] moon. uh owners kick out good tenants

[1:48] and then they've had six months of

[1:49] vacancy turn cost, prep cost, paint

[1:51] cost, you know, and then they come

[1:53] crawling back and my house won't sell. I

[1:55] need to rerent it. Well, your tenants

[1:57] that were paying $2,400 a month and now

[2:00] the comps are $2,100 a month. Wow. It's

[2:03] dropping that fast. Yeah, absolutely. I

[2:05] mean, we went up almost 30% during So,

[2:08] you know, it was uh it was all uh all

[2:10] fat, you know, it was all all gravy, all

[2:12] all uh all icing. And now it's uh you

[2:15] know there's a correction. Yeah,

[2:16] absolutely. So, let's dig into that

[2:18] correction. It sounds like sellers are

[2:19] sort of panicking now. They're panic

[2:21] selling. They're panic get kicking their

[2:23] tenants out to try to get out of the

[2:25] market as fast as possible because we

[2:26] can all see the data, especially here in

[2:28] Florida. It's pretty clear with the

[2:29] direction we're headed into. So, this is

[2:31] the Northeast Florida Association of

[2:33] Realtors MLS rental market data. This is

[2:36] the number of active listings across our

[2:38] city. There's 1817. Now, back in the

[2:41] day, you know, during the 2020 through

[2:44] 2022, Blakeley, what did it look like?

[2:46] Were there any rentals available? I

[2:49] mean, very few. I think I think vacancy

[2:51] was 2 or 3%. Yes. You know, uh, you

[2:55] know, now you're closer to 10%, 8 to 10%

[2:59] vacancies. Now, and also, and I like how

[3:02] your slide here says does not tell the

[3:03] real story. You know, let's be let's be

[3:05] transparent here. That's MLS data. Yes.

[3:08] Now, I've been in the property

[3:10] management world for 20 years. Half of

[3:12] my friends who own property management

[3:13] companies don't put their rental

[3:15] listings in MLS. So, all those vacancies

[3:17] and all those available properties are

[3:19] not reflected. And then you factor in

[3:21] the do-it-yourself landlords that are

[3:23] also not in the MLS data. So, that that

[3:25] number is much higher. Yeah. You know,

[3:27] we were going through some numbers

[3:28] before this call and you know,

[3:30] self-managed is 70 to 75% and

[3:33] professionally managed is 25 to 30%. So

[3:35] the inventory could easily be, you know,

[3:37] double or even triple that. This also

[3:39] doesn't include all the multif family

[3:42] apartment listings that are competing

[3:43] with the single family. And we'll dig

[3:44] into that data. So hang on here. Now, if

[3:46] you're seeing a rent decline in your

[3:48] market, go ahead and drop a comment and

[3:50] share with us what market you're in and

[3:51] how much rent prices have come down. But

[3:53] here's the thing. The vast majority of

[3:55] single family rentals are owned by

[3:57] individual investors, right? These are

[3:58] called mom and pop landlords who manage

[4:00] the property themselves to reduce cost,

[4:02] right? They don't want to pay a property

[4:03] manager the 8 to 10% whatever it is for

[4:06] them to go get the uh the tenant for

[4:08] them and manage the day-to-day

[4:09] activities. You know, making sure the

[4:10] lawn is mowed, making sure the repairs

[4:12] are getting done, if the refrigerator

[4:13] breaks down. Now, these larger

[4:15] portfolios, typically 10 plus

[4:16] properties, they're the ones that use

[4:18] the professional property management

[4:20] like very commonly because it makes

[4:22] sense from an economy as a scale

[4:24] perspective. Now, institutional

[4:25] ownership, these are like the big

[4:27] players. American Homes for Rent,

[4:29] Progress Homes, Invitation Homes, where

[4:31] it's owned, the property management is

[4:33] owned by those large firms themselves,

[4:36] and those are less than 5% of the

[4:38] market. The estimates are actually about

[4:40] 3 to 4% of the market is now owned by

[4:42] institutional investors. So, we saw them

[4:44] gobble up tons of properties, Blakeley,

[4:46] especially here in Jacksonville. They're

[4:48] buying 40 to 50 homes. each one of those

[4:50] institutions, you know, between 2012 all

[4:53] the way up to 2022 when they kind of

[4:55] looked at the numbers and said, "This

[4:56] doesn't make any sense anymore." And

[4:58] once rates started going up, the model

[5:00] stopped making sense. But this was a

[5:02] national rent study. Blakeley, I want to

[5:04] dig into this. Rents are coming down.

[5:06] So, this was we're already down 3 to 4%

[5:09] since August 2022 on a national level.

[5:12] The duration of the decline is 20 to 22

[5:15] months. The local standout, the one

[5:17] that's getting hit the most is Austin,

[5:19] Texas is overbuilt, multif family, tons

[5:21] of people relocating during the 2022 to

[5:23] 20 2020 to 2022 years. And the ongoing

[5:26] pressure is multifamily over building

[5:29] with amazing amenities, but the rent

[5:31] amounts are just so high that people

[5:33] can't afford it. A lot of people are

[5:35] complaining about that. Another study

[5:37] showed a 6% decline from since the since

[5:41] 2022. Again, new construction is being a

[5:44] big issue. the the places like Austin,

[5:46] Tampa, Nashville are seeing the biggest

[5:47] drops and what's interesting is that in

[5:50] the north the rents are actually rising,

[5:52] right? Because people are returning back

[5:53] to where they came from, Baltimore,

[5:55] Buffalo, Providence in the Northeast.

[5:57] What are you seeing on the ground,

[5:59] Blakeley, with your property management

[6:00] division in terms of how fast rents are

[6:03] dropping and how much? So, I would say

[6:06] 95% of our inventory is small mom and

[6:09] pop, one to three, one to three units

[6:12] investors. I myself own several

[6:15] properties. I just renewed three of

[6:16] mine. You know, they have been renting

[6:19] for close to $2,200 a month each for the

[6:21] last three years. And I just renewed all

[6:23] of them at 1950. Wow. Because yeah,

[6:26] that's where the market's at. We're

[6:28] getting a lot of um well well first and

[6:30] foremost, there's a handful of really

[6:32] good property management companies in

[6:33] Northeast Florida. I would like to

[6:35] consider us one of them. You know, that

[6:37] being said, and you run into this, I'm

[6:39] sure, in your world, uh, as well, on

[6:40] sales, there's a lot of property

[6:42] managers that promise these owners the

[6:45] price point they want to hit. They call,

[6:47] they're like, "Hey, John, I need my

[6:48] mortgage and taxes and insurance is

[6:50] $2,800. I need $2,200. I can't lose my

[6:52] property." And they promised them the

[6:54] world, they get them to sign the

[6:55] contract, they lock them in. But, you

[6:57] know, that same owner called us and

[6:58] we're like, "Yeah, your comps are

[7:00] $2,300. We're not going to like we're

[7:02] not going to, you know, blow smoke or or

[7:04] lie to you to get your business. We're

[7:05] going to be dead honest. This is what

[7:07] it's going to take. And then sure

[7:08] enough, we track all the lost deals that

[7:10] we don't get, of course. And they're all

[7:12] leasing for our comp what what we've

[7:14] told the people our comps were. So they

[7:16] they trusted these other companies. They

[7:18] list them at their $2,800 a month. They

[7:20] sit on it for 120 days and then end up

[7:23] leasing it to what, you know, we could

[7:25] have leased it for within 30 days. So

[7:27] we're seeing prices come down. We're

[7:29] we're really educating owners up front.

[7:31] like, you know, I I feel like it's

[7:33] shortterm paying for long-term gain. If

[7:36] you have the money for repairs and you

[7:38] have the money for the mortgage payment,

[7:40] you know, uh and you can tough out the

[7:43] next 3 years, four years, uh 10 years

[7:46] from now, you're going to be gold,

[7:48] right? But it's not a short-term play.

[7:50] It's not build to rent, buy a house, and

[7:53] cash flow $200, $300 a month. That those

[7:55] days are right now, those days are gone.

[7:58] put your money in tea bills and you know

[7:59] make 4.75%

[8:01] or hard money loan or you know whatever

[8:03] it is. So the ones who are really

[8:06] hurting single family is definitely

[8:07] better than than multi you know we do a

[8:09] lot of condos. Oh, these owners that are

[8:12] just between their condo fees, their

[8:14] insurance, their taxes, let's just say

[8:16] the Villa Medici, the Gardens of

[8:18] Bridgeampton, like all these heck, the

[8:20] peninsula downtown on the river. They're

[8:22] competing with new fancy multif family

[8:26] that's offering two months, three months

[8:28] free rent, no security deposit, no

[8:31] application fees, you know, pretty much

[8:34] move in at $0, get three months free in

[8:37] a big screen TV and call it a day,

[8:39] right? So those condo owners on the rent

[8:43] side are getting crushed. That is

[8:45] depressing. Yeah. And so the example you

[8:47] gave, you know, even 2400 to 2100, I

[8:50] mean, that's a 300 I mean that's more

[8:52] than 10% decline in rents just in the

[8:54] last year. And are you seeing them

[8:56] continue to drop or

[8:59] going to stabilize soon? I think we've I

[9:01] actually think we've stabilized on the

[9:02] drop. You know, the thing is is the

[9:04] owners don't understand. And they said,

[9:05] you know, well, 2 years you rented this

[9:06] house for me in 14 days at 2,800 and now

[9:09] you you're telling me it's going to take

[9:11] me 45 days at, you know, 2500 or 2400.

[9:16] Yeah. Because there's, you know, look at

[9:18] the mass amount of uh sales inventory

[9:19] that can't sell right now. Yes. And

[9:21] those owners again in their minds

[9:23] instead of losing 3,000 a month on a

[9:24] mortgage, they're going to lose five or

[9:26] 600, you know, being upside down and

[9:29] renting it out. And so for them, it's uh

[9:32] how long will it last? You know, I don't

[9:34] I don't know. I mean, it's uh I don't

[9:36] know how many months you can write $4

[9:37] and $500 checks on properties bought in

[9:40] the last four years before they just

[9:42] decide to short sale it if they have no

[9:44] equity and things like that. So, here's

[9:47] a question for the audience. Do you

[9:48] think rent prices in your area will go

[9:50] up or down in the next 12 months? Drop

[9:52] your guess in the comments. I think

[9:53] personally, Blakeley, I'm we're going to

[9:55] continue to see rents drop and I'll

[9:56] share with you why I think that is based

[9:58] on the multif family construction

[10:00] pipeline that we have locally. And so a

[10:02] lot of you in your market, you want to

[10:04] figure out, you know, how many active

[10:05] inventory, how much active inventory is

[10:08] there for sale, and how many of those

[10:10] will actually turn into a rental. How

[10:11] many are listed for rent but aren't even

[10:14] listed on MLS, which could be two to

[10:16] three times more. And you want to see

[10:18] what it's competing with new

[10:19] construction. So that's the biggest

[10:20] issue that we see here locally is the

[10:22] new construction. The the builders just

[10:24] overbuilt. They thought that the demand

[10:26] that we were having from the relocations

[10:28] would continue basically forever, I

[10:30] guess, is what their assumption was. So

[10:31] they just completely blew it out of the

[10:33] water with the number of housing starts.

[10:35] And so here and Tony will edit this

[10:37] video and I'll I'll show a video here,

[10:39] but there was a guy dancing on Beach

[10:40] Boulevard for these new apartments. And

[10:44] it's the Prescidium is what it's called.

[10:46] And they're offering three months free

[10:49] rent. Same exact thing that you were

[10:51] talking about, Blakeley, right? Like

[10:52] just walk in the door, sign a sign a

[10:54] lease, get them in there just to fill

[10:55] bodies into the to these units. And

[10:57] what's worse about it is on Hodgeges and

[11:00] San P and Butler, there's another

[11:02] apartment complex that's coming. That's

[11:04] another 400 units and it's in

[11:06] construction and it's who do they think

[11:08] they're going to rent to at these crazy

[11:10] $2,800 a month price for a 32 condo

[11:13] basically, you know, type of unit. It's

[11:16] out of control. I mean, the amenities

[11:17] are beautiful. It's in a good location,

[11:19] but people don't make that type of money

[11:21] from wages here to be able to support

[11:23] those type of payments. So, these are

[11:25] the issues that we're seeing right now.

[11:26] Relocation slowdown 80% since the peak.

[11:29] Overbuilding multif family. We're having

[11:31] an affordability crisis. Again, the

[11:33] wages here have not kept up with the

[11:35] price growth of the I see your head

[11:36] shaking up and down, right? The price

[11:37] the wages have not kept up at all with

[11:40] the rent amounts, right? And I was a

[11:42] landlord, too. Three times income is

[11:44] typically the stand requirement for

[11:46] approval on a rental. So, I mean, if

[11:48] it's 3,000 rent, I mean, you're going to

[11:50] have to make $9,000 a month. I mean,

[11:52] there's not many people in Jacksonville

[11:54] who make 9,000. I think the median

[11:55] family income is 6 65,000 for

[11:58] Jacksonville. So, you know, there is an

[12:00] affordability crisis here. And again, we

[12:02] tal we referenced this the short sales.

[12:04] People aren't able to sell their house.

[12:05] They have no equity in it. You know,

[12:07] they can't pay the transaction fees to

[12:09] the real estate agent. So, they decide

[12:10] to rent it out instead to try to pray

[12:12] that the market's going to get better,

[12:14] even though we're not seeing any real

[12:16] relief right now on interest rate side.

[12:18] So, overbuilding is the number one

[12:20] factor that I see. Uh Blakeley, I'd love

[12:22] to hear your opinion if you see the same

[12:23] thing, but there were 7,600 multif

[12:25] family units added in the last 12 months

[12:27] in Jacksonville. 11,000 units are under

[12:30] construction. So these are ones that

[12:31] already broke ground. And once they

[12:32] break ground, they have to finish the

[12:34] job because the bank finances in in

[12:36] place. And due to this, the multif

[12:38] family housing starts have now dropped

[12:40] 61% since the peak because they

[12:42] recognize, hey, we need to slow down.

[12:44] This the the relocations here are not

[12:46] happening. And the issue is, you know,

[12:48] Florida has a negative birth rate. So

[12:50] there's more people dying than being

[12:53] born in Florida. So the only way our

[12:55] state population grows is from people

[12:57] migrating here. And so the projects are

[12:59] cancelling and they're stalling out. So

[13:01] I had an owner. We have a a plan a

[13:03] multi-planned community. People here

[13:05] locally, if you're not locally, you

[13:06] understand. It's a it's a it's a

[13:08] beautifully planned community with 1.82

[13:10] $2 million homes on a crystal clear

[13:13] lagoon here in Florida in Northeast

[13:14] Florida. It's called Beachwalk.

[13:16] Beachwalk. Yeah. Okay. Now, I've had

[13:19] owners with homes and Beachwalk and

[13:20] we'll lease them if they're priced

[13:21] right. Like, we we are leasing monsters.

[13:24] We have in-person agents, you know,

[13:26] we're we're very tech driven, but

[13:28] personal we we have actual people show

[13:30] homes, which is rare now. But we had an

[13:32] owner said, "Well, you know, we said,

[13:34] well, there's two brand new complexes in

[13:36] Beachwalk." And like, well, that's not

[13:37] comparison. We're single family. And I

[13:39] said, "Well, let's just play devil's

[13:40] advocate for a minute. You're a family

[13:42] of three. Let's just say you're a family

[13:44] of three and you want to rent a $3,000

[13:47] home in Beachwalk and you got to pay

[13:49] first month security deposit. You're

[13:51] move, you know, moving fees, pet fees,

[13:53] whatever it may be. So, you're out right

[13:55] off the bat, let's just say $7,000,

[13:57] right? Same amenities, same school

[13:59] district, same grocery stores, or you

[14:01] can move to a luxury community with your

[14:03] family for 13 months or 14 months. Save

[14:06] six grand and see how the market shakes

[14:09] out. have a state-of-the-art fitness

[14:10] center, have a state-of-the-art pool,

[14:12] all these amenities. You I'm sorry, but

[14:14] as a as a family guy, if I can save my

[14:17] family six to eight grand for a year to

[14:20] live in an apartment complex a block

[14:22] over, that pays for a couple pretty nice

[14:24] vacations uh or other investments for my

[14:27] family. Why I see what happens with the

[14:28] market. So, people when they say, "Oh,

[14:30] multif family is not a competing

[14:31] product." I disagree. Absolutely it is.

[14:33] Yeah. For that kind of savings, it's a

[14:35] competing product. Absolutely. It's a

[14:37] competing property. And like you

[14:38] mentioned, the amenities are the same or

[14:40] better, you know, on these new

[14:41] construction communities. So here's the

[14:43] chart to summarize. Each area is

[14:45] definitely different around the country.

[14:46] So you want to figure out what's going

[14:48] on in your market. So this is the

[14:49] occupancy right now. So it fell from

[14:51] 94.5%

[14:53] nationally down to 90 to 92%. Blakeley

[14:56] almost exactly what you said. Vacancy 10

[14:58] is up to 10 to 13%, you know, up from 6

[15:01] to 7%. So, you know, 10% to 13% of their

[15:05] units are not currently filled and they

[15:07] have to fill them. That's why they're

[15:08] giving those, you know, three months

[15:09] free rent, two months free rent. Hey,

[15:11] walk in. New deliveries, pipeline

[15:13] change, you know, the start the starts

[15:15] are down and obviously asking rents are

[15:17] starting to decrease because this the

[15:19] owners are finally starting to realize

[15:21] that the market is actually different

[15:24] than it was just a few years ago. One of

[15:26] the things, Blakeley, that we talk about

[15:27] a lot is this affordability crisis and

[15:29] opportunity cost. So, if you're going to

[15:31] go out there and buy a home in 2025, it

[15:34] costs, according to the data, 43% more

[15:38] than renting. Are you seeing an increase

[15:40] in the number of people who want to rent

[15:42] because they can't buy? Well, I mean,

[15:44] absolutely. Uh I just uh I rented a home

[15:47] in a neighborhood by Palencia,

[15:49] Kensington, and they, you know, they

[15:50] rented the house, and they said, you

[15:52] know, this house would have cost me $800

[15:54] more a month to buy and to rent. Would

[15:57] the owner be interested in, you know,

[15:58] selling this? I'm the owner of that

[16:01] house, so no. But yeah, we definitely

[16:03] are seeing that. For us, it's really

[16:05] just an inventory. It's an inventory

[16:07] problem right now. And I I've been here

[16:08] before. I went through this before. Um

[16:11] because we've been in business 21 years,

[16:12] so I've seen this before. It's like

[16:14] patterns definitely repeat yourself.

[16:15] Although there's different reasons this

[16:17] time, but but we've been we've been here

[16:19] we've been here before. Yeah. And

[16:21] there's things that are actually worse

[16:22] this time around than last time. So last

[16:23] time, right, you had mentioned the

[16:25] strippers buying three houses and things

[16:27] like that. Now we have occupancy fraud,

[16:29] which the Fed has come out and basically

[16:31] said that 33% of people who purchased

[16:34] properties from 2020 to 2023,

[16:37] 33% of them said that they were going to

[16:40] occupy it as a primary and they didn't.

[16:42] They turned it into a rental. Do you

[16:44] believe that? That number sounds right

[16:46] to you? Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[16:49] I I mean, even now we get owners who

[16:50] call us upset because they're being

[16:52] notified by the county that they've lost

[16:54] their homestead. Really? How does the

[16:56] county find out about that? No clue. No

[16:59] clue. Interesting. Reports them or I

[17:01] know that uh some of the some of the

[17:02] counties in Northeast Florida, I know

[17:04] that in St. John's County at one point

[17:06] in time, like 65% of all Airbnbs were

[17:09] unregistered. Wow. And they they

[17:12] deployed a software that scraped a lot

[17:14] of the you know, vacation rental listing

[17:15] websites to catch people and put them in

[17:17] compliance. But is it wouldn't be hard

[17:19] for the county to implement some type of

[17:21] a software program that literally just

[17:24] scrapes Zillow and if they see it for

[17:25] rent, they're like, "Okay, this owner is

[17:27] not living there anymore, right?" So,

[17:30] they lose their homestead. Yeah. And and

[17:32] the problem is when people are these are

[17:34] rental properties, they're more likely

[17:35] to walk away from them in the case of a

[17:38] decline than if it was a primary home,

[17:40] right? Because people have to have a

[17:41] place to live, but they don't have to

[17:42] have a rental. So, this is just like the

[17:44] risk is way higher than it's being let

[17:46] on. And that's on top of all the FHA and

[17:48] VA foreclosures that didn't happen over

[17:50] the last four years. There's a huge

[17:52] backlog over 15% delinquency that are

[17:55] coming to the market by the end of this

[17:57] year starting to trickle into the

[17:58] market. Foreclosures are starting to

[18:00] triple and then triple again from there

[18:02] from the from what we had previously

[18:04] just because we have all of this backlog

[18:07] of foreclosures that need to be

[18:08] processed through. And then you if you

[18:10] think about VA and FHA, you know, it's

[18:11] only 3.5% down for FHA and 0% down for

[18:15] VA. So, if they're underwater, if they

[18:17] bought in the last 2 to 3 years, and

[18:19] those, you know, that inventory will

[18:21] come onto the market or they'll try to

[18:22] rent these things, right, to to catch up

[18:24] on their payments if they can on the Oh,

[18:27] go ahead, Blake. You got something? If

[18:28] it's bad, if it's bad enough, I mean, I

[18:30] know owners that, you know, their

[18:32] mortgage payment is 3,600 bucks and they

[18:34] can go two doors down on the exact same

[18:36] floor plan and rent it for 29. Yeah. So,

[18:38] are the are the tenants renegotiating

[18:40] all their leases when they renew? The

[18:43] smart ones are. Yeah, the smart ones

[18:44] are. We literally got an email on Friday

[18:46] of last week. See, I'm proactive. We try

[18:48] and be proactive with owners and we're

[18:50] like, listen, we're not going to just

[18:51] try and give away owners money.

[18:52] Obviously, we every time a renewal is

[18:55] up, we we run a CMA. We run every single

[18:58] listing is personal. We don't want to

[19:00] leave money on the table for the owners.

[19:02] We do a new CMA. None of them are coming

[19:04] back at what they rented for, you know,

[19:06] a year or two, a year or two ago. So,

[19:08] our suggestion in that case to the owner

[19:09] is that if you're going to raise it,

[19:11] raise it very incrementally. We're

[19:13] talking 25 bucks, right? Because some of

[19:16] these comps that are coming back are 2

[19:18] 250 less, correct? Um, but you know, we

[19:21] got an email last week from a from a a

[19:23] tenant who literally just scrolled

[19:24] Zillow and found, you know, two or three

[19:26] homes in like a five block area of her

[19:30] uh Silverleaf community and said, "Hey,

[19:32] all these all these new ones are renting

[19:34] for this price and they're offering

[19:35] these incentives. Y can you guys, you

[19:37] know, keep my rent the same or drop it

[19:38] 100 bucks, whatever it was." So yeah,

[19:41] we're we're definitely seeing that.

[19:42] Ouch, that definitely hurts. And here's

[19:44] another thing on the opportunity cost is

[19:46] the here's the payment, right? So this

[19:48] is the payment tracker for the period of

[19:51] time. So you can see that the payment

[19:53] went all the way from like 1,500,

[19:56] you know, back in '08. Like now it's

[19:58] $2,800 a month. This is why I'm saying

[20:00] it's worse. Like the payments are just

[20:01] crazy. I mean, yes, we had in uh

[20:03] inflation and the Fed printed, you know,

[20:06] 30% of plus of the money supply over

[20:09] this period, but it's such an

[20:11] unsustainable amount because the wages

[20:13] haven't kept up and now the population

[20:15] is in debt. So, I mean, Blakeley, when

[20:16] you're seeing these tenants come

[20:17] through, is the credit quality like

[20:19] perfect, they have tons of cash to put

[20:20] down, or are they cashstrapped and they

[20:22] are loaded up with debt? What does that

[20:24] look like? Uh, no. I mean, we're we're

[20:26] pretty stringent with our

[20:27] qualifications. I mean, that's one of

[20:29] the keys to our success is, you know,

[20:31] I've always joke with my owners, one of

[20:32] the toughest jobs, just finding a good

[20:34] tenant. But we turned down, we're

[20:36] turning down a lot more applications.

[20:38] Yeah. More denial. We're not meeting the

[20:41] criteria. We even have, you know, talked

[20:44] to, you know, our council about actually

[20:46] um dropping that income requirement to

[20:49] two and a half times to just to make it

[20:52] work. try and get more people more which

[20:54] was that was the norm between 2008 and

[20:57] 2012 roughly was two and a half times uh

[21:01] the income but it slowly crept up that

[21:03] there's no set

[21:05] amount through through you know through

[21:07] every company but three times has been

[21:10] you know pretty much industry norm when

[21:11] you factor in their debt service and

[21:14] stuff like that but we we've talked

[21:15] about actually lowering it to to fill

[21:18] units to fill units wow so yeah monthly

[21:21] payments 90% increase in 5 years. So

[21:24] again, you can see even just 2020, 1,500

[21:26] down to up to 2,800. So this is just

[21:29] another way of looking at the same data,

[21:30] which is mind-boggling. So there's

[21:32] something called the 28% rule. So the

[21:36] rent the the amount of payment to

[21:37] purchase a property, the the payment

[21:39] that you must pay is going to be 28% of

[21:41] your income. Okay? So this you can see

[21:43] the formula there. Estimated medium

[21:45] median US house purchase by the median

[21:47] buyer front-end ratio. So, it should be,

[21:50] according to the 28% rule, a payment of

[21:53] $2,19.

[21:56] Now, it's $2,860

[21:59] because we saw the interest rates move

[22:00] up. So, we would need to see a drop on

[22:03] the payment side of $841

[22:07] to match this 28% rule, right? You you

[22:10] don't want to be spending your entire

[22:11] income on your rent or on your payment.

[22:14] And so, this is something that we see

[22:15] out there. This is for payment. This

[22:16] isn't for rent, but it's a really good

[22:19] indicator that hey, homes are overpriced

[22:22] and rents it's it's cheaper to rent and

[22:24] so a lot of people are going to prefer

[22:26] to rent than to buy at this point in the

[22:28] market cycle. So, what are tenants

[22:29] doing? We just talked about that

[22:30] renegotiating their leases. They're

[22:32] asking for free months rent, which is

[22:34] which is crazy to me. Are your owners

[22:37] okay with giving up, you know, these mom

[22:38] and pops like one to three months free

[22:40] rent to get I've always I've always

[22:42] viewed free rent as a gimmick. Okay.

[22:44] Okay. People want cheaper rent. So, if

[22:47] you're going to do a month free, then

[22:48] take it over your 12-month lease or your

[22:50] 13-month lease and just lower the

[22:52] monthly rent payment. That's effectively

[22:54] what we're doing. But, you know, just

[22:56] even I think outside of taxes and

[22:58] insurance, the biggest expense for real

[23:00] estate investors is vacancy. Yeah. So

[23:05] if you have to, you know, drop your

[23:07] rent, you know, obviously get a good CMA

[23:09] you whether it's your realtor or your

[23:10] property manager or you just do your own

[23:13] stuff on like rental meter, for example,

[23:15] is a free site rental meter to do comps.

[23:17] Just do your own comps. But if it, you

[23:20] know, if it cost you 100 bucks to keep

[23:21] that tenant in place, man, that's a lot

[23:22] cheaper than a turn cost and two months

[23:24] or three months of vacancy. You know,

[23:27] we're doing everything we can to keep

[23:28] tenants in place. Love it. So the power

[23:31] is with the tenants now and we think

[23:32] that will level off over time. So what

[23:35] are you doing differently to help

[23:36] landlords in this market versus the

[23:38] prior market that was super hot? What is

[23:40] like if you had to think of one thing

[23:42] that you do differently? We're being

[23:43] brut brutally honest with them first and

[23:45] foremost. Like this is the comp, this is

[23:47] the price. Well, I want $400 more a

[23:50] month. Okay. Well, there's a house five

[23:52] doors down that's three years newer with

[23:54] new floor and new paint. What makes your

[23:56] house? We're just educating these

[23:58] owners. Okay. Yeah. And we're also being

[24:00] very aggressive. So, a lot of companies

[24:02] have gone away from Inerson showings.

[24:05] I'm all about AI. I'm all about

[24:07] technology, but I do think the

[24:08] differentiator moving forward. I think

[24:12] the John and the Blakers are going to

[24:13] get sick of all the AI and all the

[24:15] companies are going to start sounding

[24:16] alike each other. And I think you're

[24:17] going to need that personal h hand touch

[24:20] and personal service. So, we have high

[24:22] technology, but we also have local live

[24:24] inerson agents. So, what we're doing

[24:26] differently is we're educating owners on

[24:29] the market and let's be aggressive. You

[24:31] know, we have a very se if you're not

[24:33] getting, you know, at least five to six

[24:35] leads a week, you're price too high.

[24:37] It's I mean, it's similar to real

[24:38] estate. It's the common sense, but the

[24:40] sellers just don't seem to capitulate as

[24:42] fast as you would think because is it

[24:44] just like they have a mental block? They

[24:46] just can't believe it or they don't

[24:48] trust you or what is it? They're just

[24:50] scared. That's part of it. And then you

[24:51] jump on jump on Zillow and look at some

[24:53] of the photos. I mean, it's your house.

[24:55] When you're renting your house, it's

[24:56] almost like a dating profile, right?

[24:58] First impression. You got to get them to

[25:01] to click. You got to get them to

[25:02] inquire. You got to get them to tour.

[25:04] You got to, you know, we're doing video

[25:05] tours and 3D tours and in inerson

[25:07] showings. You're being aggressive. Do

[25:10] the fresh paint. Make sure the carpets

[25:12] are clean. Throw some fresh mulch down.

[25:14] Give it some curb appeal. You want that

[25:15] house to stand out, but be aggressive on

[25:18] pricing. You know, we I listed a home in

[25:21] in an area by, you know, that we're

[25:22] familiar with called Kensington by

[25:24] Palencia. Yep. And it was my own

[25:26] personal home and I I my my stuff was

[25:28] handled just like all of our investor

[25:30] stuff. And I told my leasing team, $100

[25:33] a week reduction until it's leased and

[25:36] at least in 21 days. Per week. Think.

[25:40] Yeah. Wow. You know, wow. But again, if

[25:43] you do the math on the on the vacancy

[25:45] cost, right, owners, they they they want

[25:48] to pound you over that extra $200 a

[25:50] month. And I understand it's a lot of

[25:51] money, right? But if you sit empty on

[25:53] the on that property for five weeks,

[25:56] your $200 a month is gone. Yeah. So,

[26:00] let's get it leased. Let's get them in

[26:02] there right away and then, you know,

[26:04] keep them happy. and and a lot of a lot

[26:06] not to go down a bunny trail, but a lot

[26:09] of uh we have a 72% renewal rate, but

[26:13] there's two reasons for non-renewals,

[26:15] not with us, but with most companies,

[26:16] and that's obviously relocation, either

[26:18] upsizing, downsizing, family, job

[26:19] relocated, whatever. And then the the

[26:23] number two reason for for non-renewal is

[26:26] whether it's an individual owner or or a

[26:29] property manager is lack of repair. Wow.

[26:33] So, while you're trying to get three

[26:34] bids for your AC and your tenants

[26:36] cooking in 90° heat for 10 days with two

[26:38] small kids, right? Think they're going

[26:41] to renew their lease with you, right?

[26:43] Just fix the AC.

[26:45] So, keep them happy. Keep your existing

[26:47] tenants happy. Happy. Yeah. Treat them

[26:49] treat them like royalty. And that's been

[26:51] the opposite of the mentality of most

[26:52] people over the last few years. So, I'm

[26:54] I'm happy to see the tenants get their

[26:56] power back. But, if you own real estate

[26:58] right now, what should you do? Should

[26:59] you if you have a investment property

[27:02] and you're looking at the numbers, what

[27:04] should you do? I'll tell you briefly

[27:06] what I did, you know what I did with my

[27:08] portfolio and so let me actually go back

[27:11] here real quick. Tony, just cut that

[27:14] part out. So, if you own real estate and

[27:16] you're an investor, what should you do,

[27:17] Blakeley? Are should you try to sell it

[27:19] or should you just keep the tenant in

[27:21] place and ride it out? I mean, at this

[27:22] point, I wouldn't I wouldn't sell it. I

[27:25] wouldn't sell it. Uh I wouldn't keep the

[27:27] tenant in place. I mean, if you're going

[27:28] to sell the property, I mean, you could

[27:30] be out with your with, you know, with

[27:32] your sales commissions, with your turn

[27:34] cost, prep cost, vacancy. You may be out

[27:36] 20, 30 grand. It may be more financially

[27:39] advantageous for you to take that $200

[27:40] or $300 loss for 3 years, you know, and

[27:44] let things calm down and the market kind

[27:46] of clean up a little bit and then sell

[27:47] it. Yeah, absolutely. And I actually

[27:49] have an investment model if you guys

[27:50] want to look at that. And so, what's the

[27:53] issue you run across when trying to sell

[27:55] your rentals if they haven't? All right.

[27:56] So, we already dealt with that, so I'll

[27:58] uh Tony, take that part out as well. We

[28:00] can skip this one. Okay. So, Blakeley,

[28:03] this is really interesting, right?

[28:05] Because we've seen taxes go up, right?

[28:07] Non- primary homes, no homestead.

[28:10] Insurance has gone up 70% in the last 5

[28:13] years. The repair costs have skyrocketed

[28:15] to get roughly repair cost. 30% on the

[28:19] repair cost. Yeah. Even to get somebody

[28:20] to go to your house, they charge you

[28:21] like $200 just to drive a mile down the

[28:24] street. It's outrageous. The big

[28:26] misconception here is that so when COVID

[28:28] hit all the vendors and I love our

[28:30] vendors but let's talk about AC,

[28:31] plumbing, electrical, they all use COVID

[28:34] and supply as the reason to raise their

[28:35] rates 25 or 30%. Right? But when

[28:37] everything went back to normal, do you

[28:39] think those rates came back down?

[28:40] Absolutely not. You know, and we get

[28:42] these owners who are like, well, I want

[28:44] two quotes. I want three quotes. We

[28:46] don't do that. We have what we consider

[28:48] the best vendors in the market. And if a

[28:50] vendor, an AC vendor, a plumbing vendor,

[28:52] is driving around to seven or eight

[28:54] properties a day just doing quotes,

[28:56] labor, insurance, gas, vehicle lease,

[28:59] etc., they make no money. The days of

[29:01] the free quotes are almost gone. That's

[29:03] right. Yeah. The service call fees are

[29:05] sometimes more expensive than the actual

[29:08] fix itself, which is wild. And I agree.

[29:10] And I agree with the vendors, by the

[29:12] way. Yeah. Like because they get quoted

[29:14] to death with no jobs and they're going

[29:16] to be out of business pretty quickly.

[29:17] Yeah. You can't run around without any

[29:18] income coming in. So this is an

[29:20] interesting thing. So investor purchases

[29:22] are down 62.8%

[29:25] from the peak. So this is tracked by

[29:27] Redfin. So this is from Q2 of 2021 to Q1

[29:31] 2025. Housing markets with biggest drop

[29:33] in investor purchases. Jacksonville

[29:36] part. I mean so obviously we're seeing

[29:37] rents coming down. The property prices

[29:39] have come up you know more than 50% in

[29:42] just a few years. So, the numbers no

[29:45] longer make sense on paper, especially

[29:47] when we just talked about, you know,

[29:48] taxes, insurance, repairs, all this

[29:51] stuff. It doesn't make sense to own a

[29:53] property if you didn't lock in your low

[29:54] rate or you bought, you know, in the

[29:56] last two to three years. They're

[29:58] underwater significantly. Blakeley,

[30:00] you're mentioning up to $800 a month in

[30:03] some situations that people are losing,

[30:05] you know, by having it rented out. And

[30:07] obviously, if they're hiring a

[30:08] professional property manager, too,

[30:09] they're paying paying out there, too.

[30:11] It's it's brutal out there. Actually,

[30:13] I'm surprised it's not down more than

[30:15] 62.8%.

[30:16] Because I'm also seeing issues with

[30:18] Airbnbs, right? Airbnbs are starting to

[30:20] hit vacant. Everybody thought it was

[30:22] sexy on Instagram to go have an Airbnb

[30:25] and manage it from home. It's something

[30:26] they could do from home and now they're

[30:28] paying the price from buying, you know,

[30:30] at these crazy prices. So, Blakeley,

[30:32] leave us this with with this. What's the

[30:34] advice for single family rental owners

[30:36] today? what should they do because of

[30:38] the market deteriorating and you know

[30:40] potentially deteriorating a lot more

[30:41] into the future as well as we see this

[30:43] pipeline of multif family come on the

[30:44] market I think that they have to

[30:47] obviously treat the tenants like gold

[30:50] offer some kind of a move incentive be

[30:52] more pet friendly we get so many owners

[30:54] and they're like I don't want more pets

[30:55] in my house why respectfully I'm I'm a

[30:58] dad right and when my son was three he

[31:00] did a lot more damage than a chihuahua

[31:02] would do right so you know be more open

[31:04] to and then we have owner who say, "I

[31:06] don't want roommates." You have to be

[31:07] more open and more flexible. I tell

[31:10] people all the time regarding the pets.

[31:11] 80% of American homes have a pet. Wow.

[31:14] So, you're literally going to take 80%

[31:15] of the market eyes off of your property

[31:18] by not allowing pets. That that's

[31:19] bonkers to me. Making sure that you

[31:22] follow, you know, whether you're doing

[31:23] it yourself or you're working with a

[31:25] professional company, follow the advice.

[31:27] If they're telling you it needs fresh

[31:28] paint, if they're telling you some saw

[31:29] needs replaced, if they're telling you

[31:30] it needs new mulch, they're telling you

[31:32] the driveway needs pressure washed, you

[31:35] may think, "Oh, I can't afford the

[31:36] $800." But two weeks or a week and a

[31:39] half of vacancy would would have other

[31:41] than that. Yeah. Would have would have

[31:43] covered that. So, get your property in

[31:45] good shape. Doesn't need to be brand new

[31:46] or perfect, but some people want to

[31:48] people want to feel proud of what they

[31:50] rent. That's their home. They're going

[31:52] to be raising their kids in there.

[31:53] They're going to be celebrating

[31:54] birthdays and anniversaries. They're

[31:55] going to have their want to have their

[31:57] in-laws over for barbecues. They want to

[31:59] be proud of where they live. So, make it

[32:01] presentable for them. Make it a make it

[32:03] a home that they're proud of. And by the

[32:04] way, they'll take better care of it.

[32:06] Amen. That's really good advice. So,

[32:08] I'll tell you Blakeley why I sold my

[32:10] rentals, right? So, I had over 200 plus

[32:12] units, multif family and single family

[32:14] properties, and I underwrote every

[32:16] individual property. So, I think every

[32:18] property is different. It's unique in

[32:20] terms of its age, its condition, its

[32:22] location, everything like that. But the

[32:24] one thing in common with all of my

[32:25] properties that I sold between 2022 and

[32:28] 2024 once I saw the Fed was raising

[32:30] rates in 20 in March 2022 that spooked

[32:33] me and I knew that when rates go up,

[32:35] prices come down and I saw the amount of

[32:37] building that was going around my

[32:38] community. So I sold literally

[32:40] everything. The only house I have left

[32:41] is my primary home and you know that was

[32:43] my full business was was having these

[32:45] rentals and having all them and doing

[32:46] flips and stuff like that. My return on

[32:49] equity was guess what my return on

[32:51] equity was on my rentals. Blakeley 30%.

[32:54] 3%. I had built so much equity up in the

[32:57] home and the cash flow was so low

[33:00] because the I mean it was just it was

[33:03] crazy. When I talk about return on

[33:04] equity, it's the equity sitting in the

[33:05] home at the time of market value, not

[33:07] when of purchase. Just to be clear on

[33:09] that. Yeah, that's why it's different.

[33:10] But 3% is not enough, right? I can go

[33:12] buy a treasury and get 5% no risk. So

[33:15] why in the world would I hold my rental

[33:17] if I didn't think there would be

[33:18] long-term appreciation in my market?

[33:20] It's definitely not going to come from

[33:21] cash flow and things keep breaking,

[33:23] right? Like one AC unit broken would

[33:26] erase the cash flow for the entire year

[33:28] or one turn for the year would erase all

[33:30] the cash flow. It wasn't worth it. So, I

[33:32] sold them all and I turned it into a

[33:33] private lending fund for agents to do

[33:35] fix and flips. And that has taken off

[33:37] and been so much more profitable. I

[33:39] actually now get 15 to 20% interest on

[33:42] my fix and flips, which is just a

[33:44] phenomenal return versus doing that. So,

[33:47] I'm a fan of actually selling rentals.

[33:48] right now you are past the peak as

[33:50] Blakeley said. It's like it's like at

[33:51] this point you're past the peak. You're

[33:53] kind of locked in or else you're going

[33:54] to be chasing the market down for the

[33:56] next couple months. It might make sense

[33:58] to hold on if it cash flows and it makes

[34:00] sense um and it's in pretty good

[34:02] condition. Estimate the repairs, right?

[34:03] Going into the future, estimate in the

[34:06] area like how much new construction is

[34:07] around me that's going to compete with

[34:08] this because not every area is going to

[34:10] drop 10 to 15%. Right? It's usually the

[34:12] areas where they're overbuilding like

[34:14] crazy and and the demand is is less,

[34:17] right? Because you look at rentals in

[34:18] like Neptune Beach, there's nowhere left

[34:21] to build. Those are those rent right

[34:22] away. Those are high demand areas with

[34:24] people who are wealthy that will buy. So

[34:26] each property is completely different.

[34:28] If you want to send your property to

[34:29] either me or Blakeley, we can take a

[34:30] look at it. Blakeley's got a tremendous

[34:32] team over there. I think you have like

[34:34] what 800 units under management or

[34:36] something like that. We just crossed a

[34:38] thousand. Congrats. That's awesome. Just

[34:41] crossed a thousand. And uh yeah, I mean,

[34:43] you know, great school districts. I have

[34:45] a property that I'm breaking even on per

[34:46] month, breaking even on per month, but

[34:48] I'm not really. I mean, if you factor in

[34:50] historical

[34:52] uh appreciation, you know, 3% and then

[34:55] the tenants paying down almost $400 of,

[34:57] you know, principal a month for me as

[34:59] well. So, you know, while I'm not

[35:01] putting cash in my pocket every month,

[35:02] you know, it is it is uh it is

[35:05] definitely uh you know, adding value.

[35:07] Yeah, absolutely. So, if you want to

[35:09] underwrite the deal, I have a

[35:10] underwriting model. I can send it to you

[35:12] if you comment and you email me. My

[35:14] email's down in the description of the

[35:16] video. Let me know. Subscribe to my

[35:18] Substack and I'll go ahead and send you

[35:20] a an underwriting model that you can

[35:22] take a look at. I'm happy to take a look

[35:23] at it with you. I know Blakeley is as

[35:25] well. So, Blakeley, this was awesome.

[35:27] Thank you for today. And and we do no

[35:29] sales here. We're only rental. We're

[35:31] only rentals 247 365. Rentals, rentals,

[35:34] rentals. We live and breathe it. So, I

[35:36] love it. I love it. So, we do sales over

[35:38] here primarily like 99% of sales. My

[35:41] company does about 1,800 transactions

[35:43] per year on the sales side. So, if you

[35:45] need help selling your home or if you're

[35:47] around the country looking for a top

[35:48] agent to help you, right, 80% of agents

[35:50] are horrible. They're just they don't

[35:52] know what they're doing. They sell one

[35:53] transaction a year. Don't get stuck with

[35:55] them. If you need to get in touch with

[35:56] one of the top people around the

[35:57] country, even if you're not in Florida,

[35:59] let me know. I have a huge network

[36:00] across the country because I've been in

[36:02] this industry for quite some time.

[36:03] Blakeley, thank you. You're a gentleman

[36:05] and a scholar. See you next time.

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After a 30 percent pandemic-era surge (2020–2022), rental rates reversed as interest rates rose, remote-work mandates ended, and the pandemic-driven migration to the Sun Belt reversed. Rents are now falling 3–6 percent nationally as supply exceeds demand for the first time in years.
Many are facing severe losses, particularly "accidental landlords" who bought at boom prices and can't sell. Owners who evicted tenants expecting quick sales now sit empty for 6–8 months, losing $800–$1,000 monthly. Some are choosing between accepting rental losses or selling at deep discounts.
Yes. Landlords are competing for tenants with move-in specials, free months, and flexible lease terms. Vacancy rates have jumped from 2–3 percent to 8–10 percent, giving renters genuine leverage to negotiate lower rates or favorable terms for the first time since 2020.
Owners trapped by rising interest rates and inability to sell hoped to liquidate via quick home sales, mistakenly believing they could re-rent at higher rates. Instead, they faced 6–8 month vacancies and market rates that had dropped $250–$300 below what previous tenants were paying.
Firms like American Homes for Rent and Invitation Homes, which dominated buying from 2012–2022, largely exited the market when interest rates rose and rent appreciation reversed. Their 3–4 percent market share peaked and declined as the financial model broke.
Austin, Tampa, and Nashville have been hit hardest, with declines of 6 percent or more due to pandemic-era overbuilding. Interestingly, Northeast cities like Baltimore, Buffalo, and Providence are seeing rent increases as remote workers return to offices.
Approximately 70–75 percent of single-family rentals are self-managed and never listed on MLS. Combined with do-it-yourself landlords and multifamily competition, the actual available inventory is likely double or triple what MLS data shows.
Accidental landlords are owners forced into rental by market reversal—they bought remote-work homes, rates rose, they couldn't sell, so they reluctantly rent at losses. Intentional landlords buy specifically for rental income and can adjust to market cycles more strategically.

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